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Darren Englebretsen, New Zealand



Product Testing and Related Information

One of the onerous duties (not!) of being a knifemaker is product testing, so I guess I can't have a website selling hunting knives without a little bit of info on my product testing activities and the related gear that I use. As a moderately active hunter I take every opportunity I can to try out my own knives, especially my non-mainstream models.

Rifles and Game

I mainly hunt goats for the pot as well as varmints (rabbits, hares and magpies), with the occasional deer stalk (red and fallow deer) thrown in. On goat hunts I usually butcher four or five animals each time I go out, so my knives tend to get a fair workout. Rifles that I use include common calibres such as .223, .243 and .308 as well as a couple of wildcats - namely a 270-08 and a 7.62x39 Improved (aka 30 PPC). As there isn't much load data for these two wildcats I will include my data here with the usual caveats, as noted below.

Field testing 4 June 09.

I used my raised drop point (RDP) knife to take hind legs from 10 goats, skinning out the legs and cutting through hip and knee joints of each leg. The sweep of this semi-skinner design made the skinning part of the job easy. After 12 legs I could still shave the hairs off my arm. After 18 legs the knife had started to lose its edge however it was still suffciently sharp to process the last animal. At home I touched the blade up with a smooth sharpening steel (a burnisher) which restored the edge somewhat, although it was not as sharp as it would be after stoning. (In the field I use a fine diamond hone to sharpen my knives, as in my experience this gives a better result than a steel). After steeling I then sharpened the knife on an extra fine oilstone to restore a true shaving sharp edge. As an aside, I always make sure I sharpen my knives before going out hunting. The photos below show (left) the knife and (right) rifle used this day (Brno 243, Wilson 24" stainless steel barrel with MAE suppressor, Leupold VX III 4.5-14x40).














Field testing 10 October 09 - Gut Hook Drop Point.


Gut Hook

This session was a meat gathering goat hunt as well as an opportunity to test a new model - a gut hook drop point knife. I had made a number of gut hook prototypes before making one that I deemed worthy of further testing. The photo above shows the gut hook knife. As you can see the handle differs from my usual type and is designed to be more comfortable when used upside down. The straight back of this handle also helps align the hand properly when using the gut hook. The blade is of drop point design but has a fairly generous sweep to help with skinning.

The photos below show the gut hook in use. (1) Initial cut under the skin; (2) the end of the first cut, showing how the gut hook had cut the skin but left the underlying thin muscular abdominal lining intact - especially useful if you want to skin an animal before further butchering; (3) start of the second pass to cut the abdominal lining; and (4) completion of the second cut, showing the gut contents undamaged. I was quite pleased with the performance of the gut hook, as this was the very first time I had ever used such a knife. I used the knife to recover 9 sets of goat legs (cutting thru 18 knee joints and 18 hip joints), and the knife was still sufficiently sharp to have done quite a few more animals if required. I found that the raised gut hook portion didn't get in the way at all when skinning. Overall I was very satisfied with the performance of both the gut hook and of the knife in general.


Gut Hook Test

(1) Initial cut under the skin.


Gut Hook Test

(2) The end of the first cut, showing how the gut hook had cut the skin but left the underlying thin muscular abdominal lining intact.


Gut Hook Test

(3) Start of the second pass to cut the abdominal lining.


Gut Hook Test

(4) Completion of the second cut, showing the gut contents undamaged.


Wildcat reloading data


270-08 data

  • I assume no responsibility for use or misuse of these data
  • These data were safe in my rifle but may not be in other rifles
  • Use the components listed with these data. Other components, especially heavier cases such as reformed GI brass, may show higher pressures than reformed Remington 7mm08 cases with the same load
  • Start all loads 10% below maximum and work up carefully, paying attention to signs of excess pressure (cratered primers, bolt face marks on the case head, flattened primers, sticky extraction and leaking or blown primers)
  • Discontinue testing if any of these pressure signs become apparent

Rifle

Ruger M77 Mk I, 22" Sako barrel rechambered to 270-08, threaded for MAE suppressor

Cases - reformed Remington 7mm-08, trimmed to 51.2 mm; Primers - Federal Large Rifle.

Projectile Powder Weight of powder / grains Muzzle velocity / fps Comments
Remington 100gn PSP
ADI 2206
40
2838
"
"
41
2903
"
"
42
2956
"
"
43
3023
"
"
44
3103
"
"
45
3138
Maximum safe load in this rifle
Remington 130 gn PSP
ADI 2208
42
2678
"
"
43
2705
"
"
44
2791
"
"
45
2861
"
"
46
2908
Primers still with rounding, extraction OK, no bolt face marks. Maximum
Remington 130gn PSP
Vectan Tu5
40
2420
Mild
"
"
41
2410
"
"
42
2480
"
"
43
2606
"
"
44
2644
"
"
45
2736
"
"
46
2787
Maximum, safe in this rifle, my current working load
Sierra 130gn BTSP
ADI 2209
49
2772
Maximum
Remington 130gn PSP
ADI 2209
49
2783
Maximum
Nosler 130gn Partition
ADI 2209
49
2846
Maximum
Winchester 150 gn SP
Vihtavouri N550
43
2539
"
"
44
2589
"
"
45
2606
"
"
46
2754
"
"
47
2793
Diminishing returns, Maxiumum
Winchester 150gn SP
ADI 2209
43
2444
Mild
"
"
44
2491
"
"
45
2570
"
"
46
2621
"
"
47
2703
"
"
48
2750
Maximum.
Winchester 150gn SP
IMR 4831
43
2373
Mild
"
"
44
2461
"
"
45
2494
"
"
46
2550
"
"
47
2595
"
"
48
2681
"
"
49
2756
Compressed, safe in my rifle. Maximum
"
"
50
2775
Case full of powder, heavily compressed. Slightly sticky extraction, diminishing returns. DO NOT USE.
Highland 150gn SP
IMR 4831
50
2765
Slightly sticky extraction, above max., DO NOT USE.
Winchester 150gn SP
Winchester WMR
47
2394
Mild
"
"
48
2459
"
"
49
2483
"
"
50
2545
Couldn't get any more powder in, non-optimum powder

7.62x39 Improved data

Note

  • I assume no responsibility for use or misuse of these data
  • These data were safe in my rifle but may not be in other rifles
  • Use the components listed with these data. Other components, especially heavier cases, may show higher pressures
  • Be especially careful in working up 7.62x39 Improved loads, in this small capacity case increases of half a grain of powder can lead to the beginning of high pressure signs
  • Start all loads 10% below maximum and work up carefully, paying attention to signs of excess pressure (cratered primers, bolt face marks on the case head, flattened primers, sticky extraction and leaking or blown primers)
  • Discontinue testing if any of these pressure signs become apparent
  • These data were developed using 0.308" diameter bullets in a 0.308" diameter barrel. These data are invalid for bullets of greater diameter than 0.308". Do not use these data with 0.310" or larger bullets.

Rifle

BSA Hunter .222 action with bolt face opened out, 22" Blenkarne TrueFlite .308" stainless steel barrel, threaded for MAE suppressor

Cases - fire formed Lapua 7.62x39; Primers - Winchester Large Rifle.

Projectile Powder Weight of powder / grains Muzzle velocity / fps Comments
Lapua 100gn HP
IMR 4227
26
2691
Maximum
Lapua 100gn HP
ADI 2205
27.5
2924
Maximum
Speer 125gn TNT
ADI 2207
29
2541
Maximum, safe in my rifle, couldn't get any more powder into the case
Hornady 130gn SP
ADI 2205
25
2484
"
"
26
2560
"
"
26.5
2617
Maximum
"
"
27
2646
Slight excessive pressure signs, DO NOT USE
Hornady 130gn SP
ADI 2207
29
2510
Maximum, safe in my rifle, couldn't get any more powder into the case
Lapua 130gn HP
ADI 2207
28
2463
"
"
29
2528
Maximum, safe in my rifle, couldn't get any more powder into the case
Sierra 150gn SP
ADI 2207
25
2184
"
"
26
2270
"
"
27
2314
"
"
28
2404
Maximum
"
"
29
2435
Start of excessive pressure signs, diminishing returns, above max., DO NOT USE


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